what is it like to live in lebanon nh

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Old 12-thirteen-2015, x:47 AM

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Also, what is the general mindset of the area? To exist brief, my fiance and I are both educated and in our mid-twenties, and would like to live in an surface area that encourages and fosters didactics and advancement, simply at the same time nosotros are accustomed to some of the southern "means of life" regarding our personal rights such as lax gun laws and personal liberty, which we do not desire to surrender.

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While college towns tend to be more left-liberal (aka "progressive") than the residuum of New Hampshire, due to statewide preemption on weapons laws, local mindset on firearms can't take as well much impact on your your personal freedoms.

I'chiliad not saying that "personal freedom" is always a domestic dog whistle for "marijuana enforcement", but New Hampshire is behind the rest of New England on relaxing enforcement and MM laws.

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A couple other questions and I'm sure this is asked a ton but...how bad are the winters really? My dad grew up in western upstate NY and I've heard all of the horror stories of the snow piling up above the tops of the buses.

Primal NH winter is bad; but non as bad every bit some people will claim. Mostly they are long, cold, and snowy, and power outages (oft for hours, upwards to several days) are not unusual.

Last year was particularly intense, so you'll hear more horror stories now than usual. I'd recommend visiting in tardily February to see for yourself.

Old 12-13-2015, 04:34 PM

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For better or worse, the two biggest influences in the economy here are Dartmouth and its Medical Center. Go used to the fact that it's kind of a small-scale customs otherwise. When we moved here, nosotros learned about the "Upper Valley Shrug" in which you look over both shoulders before saying something that could be perceived as negative about someone, since there'southward a practiced chance they are next to y'all.

Regarding winters... sometimes it helps to accept context. You will most certainly want to have snow tires. But that and patience volition get you pretty far. Comparing to other places I've lived that take had winter.... there's less snow than upstate NY, and nowhere most as common cold equally Minnesota. And most people do accept some idea of how to drive in the winter (although the first snowstorm is ever an unpleasant refresher for many people), so it's in some cases ameliorate than the Southward that way (when I lived in Oak Ridge, TN, the standard response to 1/four" of snow or ice was apparently to crash into the nearest tree).

And the vast majority of people up hither encompass winter. It'south pleasant, it looks pretty, and there's enough of opportunity for skiing (specially, as a local, wed evening skiing is cheap), snowshoeing, skating, and the like. And I hire someone to plow my driveway (consider this unless yous have a fiddling driveway to shovel), and because of that, I have basically zero "outdoors" maintenance in the winter.

Traffic? People here that are native or have lived here for a while mutter about information technology (peculiarly, the shift change at DHMC snarls up Exit eighteen to the point information technology backs up on the highway.... but only from ~vii:50 to 8:05 or then every morning) and the occasional busy fourth dimension at Exit xx, we don't actually accept traffic. I work right by DHMC. My drive is 16.5 miles. It takes me 19 minutes. And where I live (Grantham) I accept a overnice four.5 acre spread with hundreds of maples trees and only $4500 in taxes (yes, that'south appalling compared to some other places I've lived... but considering I pay only a few hundred in Interest and Dividends tax and no sales tax, I'll take information technology. And it's expressionless serenity at dark.

Mind you, if it's after 10pm, there's no gas station anywhere nearby. And the nearest grocery shop is ~16 miles away. And the restaurants are all "in town" (Lebanon area or Newport to the south). And it can be, well, a bit rednecky at times. But still, it's pleasant.

And I know plenty of people that have a business firm with more a fleck of land that live even closer in than I practice (the Povertly Lane/Cantankerous Route area of Lebanon, or in the hills of NE Lebanon).

DHMC has a really strong customs as well, and they run a lot of prissy programs for employees (my partner works for the College and has access to many of the same benefits), similar the occasional subsidized bus trip to Boston or Montreal, eating place outings, happy hours, etc.

The people that don't do well are the people that move hither expecting information technology to (a) non have any winter, and (b) exist like whatever suburb or city they came from. It's not actually either. Only it's quite an enjoyable place to alive if yous can deal with the rural wintertime aspects.

Old 12-xiii-2015, 05:42 PM

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Winters are horrible and then only get used to information technology and larn to love information technology. You lot're not too far from ski areas so you lot'll have plenty to practice in winter. Learn to deal with it and to love information technology. Stock up before winter in case you can't become out-- and larn to winterize your house to go on the cold out (a little bit). Accept a fireplace or a woodstove.

Get the best winter apparel you tin can beget; you lot won't regret information technology. L.L. Bean boots perchance and a great down jacket. Gloves, scarves. Line up someone to plow your driveway. Only be gear up for wintertime and then yous'll savor it--to a degree.

You lot'll have a bit of a learning curve and in some ways information technology's like going dorsum in fourth dimension, learning all the tried and true ways we New Englanders have accumulated over the ages. Get a generator but don't use information technology in the business firm.

Learn to drive in snowfall--meaning don't use the brakes if information technology'southward icy or if you become into a sideslip. If your car is swerving into a skid, turn the cycle into the direction of the curve. Continue blankets and other supplies in your car. It's just general survival stuff that you'll accept to learn the first year. I'm sure people will aid you.

I would be very excited to exist moving there with so much to practise and such natural beauty. Winters? Get used to it. Packet upwards.

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Old 12-fourteen-2015, 03:20 PM

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Slap-up communication so far.

I thing to go along an middle on is property taxes. They vary a LOT town to town and volition effect rents just as much as dwelling house-buying. no sales tax in NH is a double edged sword as I institute that NH nickle and dime'd y'all to a heavy degree to make upwardly for it. Machine registration is a good example—y'all won't pay sales tax on your car, but your first 2 or three years of car registration will cost as much as sales revenue enhancement would have.

NH & VT have some of the nigh lenient gun laws in the country and at that place are plenty of gun clubs around for shooting. Outside of a Hanover cocktail party you lot won't find much resistance to responsible gun owners.

Learn to drive in the now, get snow tires, be prepared. It's really not that hard, it just takes some experience and patience. The first vehicles you see off the roads during a storm usually have plates from "away" as skiers headed north tend to accept too much faith in their big, fancy, all bike drive SUV's and not plenty understanding of physics. Meanwhile, a local in an boilerplate sedan on snow tires merely plods to and from work every day without drama regardless of the weather. Accept your time and yous'll be fine.

I've lived in NH & VT my whole life and so I don't think of our winters equally particularity harsh just that'south all subjective. It is what it is and well-nigh folks don't let winter "own" them. Outside of the very, very worst storms we don't let snowfall continue us housebound. It's nearly lx degrees this week so subsequently last years heavy snows nosotros are getting a balmy winter so far... we'll see what it's like in February. Nosotros exercise non get lake-upshot snowfall like western NY so fifty-fifty a "big snow" yr isn't that crazy. This year is an El Nino twelvemonth so it's forecasted to be wet and warmer than average. So far, that is true.

Crime is more often than not petty stuff and not common, many folks still don't lock there doors. Sadly, the 89/91 corridor is heroin-trafficker central between Montreal and Boston/NY/New Haven, and that has some laissez passer-by effect. Simply for as much printing every bit information technology gets, VT & NH's drug problems really aren't more terrible than anywhere else. It's an event that everyone, everywhere is dealing with and hopefully we'll find a way to curb it at some point (I cull to remain positive on this discipline)

Old 12-15-2015, 12:18 AM

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Hi there. We've been living in New London, virtually 30 minutes down from DHMC for 2 years. Nosotros admittedly honey information technology. I went to higher in Vermont and all my life wanted to be dorsum in the area.

On the hospital: DHMC is a world class medical facility. Class ane Trauma Heart, Medical Schoolhouse, Children'southward Infirmary, Cancer Centre, inquiry center, you name information technology. All under 1 massive roof. It is modern, easy to get to, and serves Northern New England. In addition to DHMC, there is a large VA hospital that serves a big veteran community in the area and has close association with DHMC. Also, DHMC has been slowly taking over the many hospitals in the area or some of them beingness subserved into DHMC due to the resource-rich environment there. As a retired fed, I decided to use DHMC for my medical needs and my principal dr. is there. Likewise, the presence of Dartmouth University in the town lends an incredible Ivy League flavor to the area.

Equally to the area. Showtime, the bad since you were talking about information technology previously. NH and VT are having a heroin crisis. It as well has law enforcement overtones equally Hanover/Lebanon is on the crossroads of two major interstate highways that provide for illicit trafficking betwixt Canada and New York and Boston.

Also on the not and so skillful. While Hanover is quite upscale, Lebanese republic and West Lebanon are not as gentrified and do have their crime incidents, although what'southward considered high in New Hampshire would crusade loud laughter in well-nigh other places.

The non so proficient, continued: Housing prices tend to exist loftier and there is a scarcity of affordable rentals, although I understand the Medical Heart has a referral program. If you want to alive in the immediate vicinity of Hanover, $500,000 is not probably at the lower end. However, yous can get a 3 sleeping room, two bath home on two or three acres within a 25 mile radius in places like Piermont, Danbury, Grafton, Lyme, Enfield, etc., starting at well-nigh $170,000 and you may not run into your neighbors if you then desire.

Lastly on the bad side simply I call it the good side too: Winters are astringent - master reason why nosotros're hither by the way.

On the expert side:

New Hampshire ranks every bit one of the height three states every bit to quality of life. Our law-breaking rate in many towns approaches the statistically insignificant. Medical access is widespread and high quality. The population is one of the top v in educational levels in the country.

The area is an outdoors paradise. The Appalachian Trail runs literally through Hanover, with a Starbucks 25 anxiety from the trail. It is an outdoors town. The Northern Track Trail is a kicking-barrel 58 mile rail-to-trail from Lebanese republic to most Concord, which I did this by summer. You're 15 minutes from the Lakes Region with boating, kayaking, canoeing, you name information technology. Yous're too on the Connecticut River with canoe/kayak trips possible. Then there'due south the hiking or snowshoeing. Mount Cardigan is quite near Hanover so is Ragged Mountain and Mt Sunapee, and if you lot want strenuous, world course hiking, the Presidentials are scantly an hr away, requiring either skilful hiking experience or in the Winter, everything including crampons and other survival gear. Hiking Mountain Washington is a dream come true. Also on the hiking, the SKRG (Sunapee, Kearsarge and Ragged Mount Greenway) is a 75-mile loop through the mountains in the Lakes Region with spectacular views. Lastly, there are xix tall ski areas in New Hampshire, and another 19 in Vermont, including the Dartmouth Skiway that people associated with Dartmouth can ski for a dime and a song. Nordic skiing is also very popular hither. Skiing and other Winter sports are a major part of the economy.

Adept side: Because of the accent on outdoors, people here besides tend to be fit and healthier than the general population in other places. And the abundance of Eastern Mountain Sports and LL Bean stores is evident.

Good side: No income tax.

Good side: No sales tax.

Good side: Very politically diverse population. Yep, there are recalcitrant liberals and conservatives similar everywhere. But overall, there is style more dialogue and civilized conversation here than I constitute in the Mid Atlantic. You lot'll be shopping and encounter a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker on a car parked next to another one displaying a Trump sticker.

Good side: Access to your government. Our capitol is still open up to the public, you lot only go in and talk to your representatives. Both VT and NH have the Town Meeting concept of straight democracy in much of it. Our town just reversed a conclusion of the town selectmen at our concluding town coming together. And talking to your boondocks or county or state officials is equally like shooting fish in a barrel every bit walking into their offices and chatting.

Good side, since you lot asked. Winters are good and severe with a lot of snow. Merely we've got more snowfall-free highways than anywhere else. The snow removal here is well-nigh the all-time I've seen. The DHMC area is as I said earlier, at the crossroads of I-91 and I-93 so going places is easy.

Expert side: If you lot like hunting, you are in a good place. Boar, deer, moose, bear, etc etc etc. And fishing is superb due to the abundance of rivers and lakes.

Good side: Water quality in most of the state is superb. Most of the lakes are Category one, the water is potable. At that place is some interference by the different lake protective associations equally to ensuring your watercraft has been cleaned off, particularly if information technology was used at a lake affected with milfoil, an invasive plant.

Other interesting quirks: Although there are plenty of churches, Vermont is the state with the lowest church building attendance in the nation. And New Hampshire is second lowest. Faith is really non a huge topic of chat in these two states.

Firearms: As someone already stated, New Hampshire is quite lax. A concealed allow is like shooting fish in a barrel to get although there is a background cheque. Next door in Vermont, they take the "Vermont Carry" where you can conduct, open, concealed, or any.

Old 12-xv-2015, 06:35 AM

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Snow in western NY is essentially worse than anyplace in NH. Having said that, last year was a pretty rough winter and the snowfall was pretty horrible. Not Rochester/Buffalo horrible just non too fun either.

In general the 'badness' of wintertime has more to practice with cold weather and short days than snow typically. This year (so far) has been bully equally far every bit cold weather but the short days remain a certainty.

In substantially all of NH, traffic is not a major concern most of the time..but information technology can exist somewhat painful, in very localized areas sometimes. Roads near the major malls are horrible during christmas shopping season. Some of the major roads heading into MA are bad during typical commute hours - though typically the # of miles of badness on the NH portion of a commute is very modest.

As for traffic in the DHMC area - I doubtable you can find a place to live where traffic won't be bad. The interstate in that surface area rarely has traffic (and when it does, it would tend to exist more related to leaf peeping season than commutes). However, the chief 'elevate' merely off the highway in Lebanese republic for about 1-2 miles on either side of the interstate tin can get pretty bad during superlative hours with the combination of local shoppers and people getting off highway for food before entering the vast wasteland that is VT (don't become me wrong - I love VT and visit quite a bit only in that location is effectively zilch to swallow near the highway that yous tin can count on for at least an hour after crossing the border in that area).

Being willing to take up skiing or other outdoor activity in the winter will help it 'go faster'. There are certainly people who would help you lot learn to ski. We've also had a group that did some cantankerous country skiing/biathlon shooting events last year which was pretty fun.

If you are looking for a time to visit NH In general, I might suggest Feb - You'll get to meet winter at its worst which is valuable to make certain you are upwards for it. Wing into Manchester, NH and visit the nhlibertyforum.com Feb 18th - 21st - You lot'll become to meet a lot of interesting people. At that place is besides a gun bear witness at the hotel that aforementioned weekend. Manchester is the largest city so you'll become a sense of what we mean when we say big urban center in NH (we mean pocket-size).

It is about an hour to Lebanon.

Annotation as for finding a house with some state - I don't think you'll need to be all that far from DHMC - I would guess you tin notice some reasonable land inside a 15-thirty infinitesimal commute.

Finally, although there is a lot to like about the DHMC area, in that location are some bully hospitals in Manchester (I know -- city) but within that same 15-thirty minute commute you can besides detect large properties where yous can probably setup a shooting range in your backyard and nobody will care.

Old 12-15-2015, 05:49 PM

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Thank you all then much for all of the advice and information you all accept provided on hither. It has been extremely helpful! It seems similar a keen area and you lot all have given me a good direction on what to expect for when I visit and accept answered and so many of my questions. Other than if someone preferred the city lifestyle (which I don't) over the rural or if they didn't like the snow (which I'm excited almost) I tin't imagine why most people wouldn't want to alive at that place.

I'k sure I'll have some more than questions, but for now, you all accept been fantastic in helping me!

Old 12-15-2015, x:22 PM

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. . . or if they didn't like the snow (which I'm excited about) I can't imagine why well-nigh people wouldn't want to live there.

It'due south not really the snow that makes people not desire to live here, information technology'south the length of winter (this year is an exception, considering it's been a really warm autumn, and they are predicting a warm(er) wintertime, so, at to the lowest degree in my optics, "winter" is actually late this yr). It will concluding much longer than it does down in Tennessee. The days are much shorter in New Hampshire than in Tennessee during the winter:

December 21, 2015 (winter solstice):

Knoxville:
Sunrise: seven:42 a.thou.
Dusk: 5:25 p.m.
Length of visible low-cal: 10 hours, 40 minutes

Hanover, NH:
Sunrise: 7:19 a.m.
Sunset: four:15 p.m.
Length of visible lite: ten hours, i infinitesimal

I'm from Southern California, and the curt days and low sun angle (I have no windows with southern exposure so I only have direct sun in my windows at sunrise) impact my Seasonal Affective Disorder quite a bit - something to keep in heed.

Leaves are off the trees starting in mid-November, and I don't feel like it's truly spring until flowers get-go blooming in mid-to-late April - leaves don't really start to appear until early on-to-mid May. I generally have my heater on from belatedly September through mid-to-late May fifty-fifty though I wear several layers of vesture indoors (yes, I am a wimp).

Winter is pretty (when in that location is snowfall) and fun for the offset couple of months, but information technology simply lasts also darn long for about of us, and that is really a large reason that a lot of people don't stay here.

Despite this, I dear it here (I'm in southern New Hampshire) for a lot of the "good" reasons mentioned above. I've been here over x years at present, and am happy I moved here.

Old 12-16-2015, 09:48 AM

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Information technology will be interesting to see what this wintertime acutally turns out to be. We'll go past the Solstice (shortest day, longest nighttime) before the first real snowfall even hits most of u.s.a.. I'grand already looking forward to the days getting a little bit longer going forward.

Old 12-17-2015, 06:49 PM

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